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I live in LA. I've only bee...This is my Take: <br /><br />I live in LA. I've only been here 3 years, but in that time I've met many excellent musicians in town all talented enough to explode at any moment. The sad reality is, in a town so saturated with incredible musicians, the cream isn't necessarily rising to the top as quickly as it would in other cities. Everyone who is great here is on the same level - getting little victories here and there. Some land a major tour and hit the road. Some get signed and go through the major label roller coaster. Some work the YouTube angle. Some make their livings on song placements. Some fly around the country playing colleges. Some get in their car and tour the coast/country on their own. But what all the non-superstar musicians in LA have in common is, when we play a show in town we accept shitty shitty deals. How do I know that these are shitty deals? Well, I've booked shows in nearly every major city in the country and know how other cities do it.<br /><br />This isn't going to be a post about LA (as that could fill a book), but rather the issue of "pay to play" clubs.<br /><br />Let's explore some of the many scenarios bands get offered by venues and promoters every day...<br /><br />Read more... http://aristake.com/?post=79<br /><br />Ari HerstandAri Herstand: Ari's Takehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11895214147049367007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-90871216414737057922013-06-28T13:37:19.536-07:002013-06-28T13:37:19.536-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07228548692855966454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-18853818955230943562013-05-16T04:59:45.117-07:002013-05-16T04:59:45.117-07:00I can be verfied at
www.euphoricaz.bravesites.com...I can be verfied at <br />www.euphoricaz.bravesites.com<br />and by arizona local bands as well as a couple of metropolis records bandsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795757662260835797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-81744612181761248412013-05-16T04:57:19.905-07:002013-05-16T04:57:19.905-07:00I had to ...
As a former concert promoter and now...I had to ...<br /><br />As a former concert promoter and now pursuing venue ownership ..<br />There are a slew of promoters who are not worthy of payment.<br /><br />for my events I did what I asked of the bands.<br /><br />Its your show ... PROMOTE IT !!<br /><br />I made and distributed flyers , and not just at headshops and record stores, but in peoples hands whiel I grocery shopped ect.<br /><br />Making an event in FB is like posting a flyer in comments. ... oooh hwo personal ... oohh how that took 5 seconds of your time.<br /><br />It does help inform, but it is ... just lacking in the human element.<br /><br />After a show, post a comment, say thank you, post a pic of that person, and then plug your next event.<br /><br /><br />Shows I booked and bands I booked for each show were genre relevent. Basically where the audience interested in band A may like band B, thus creating a wider fan base for the band, and more options in the genre for the fan.<br /><br />If 4 bands draw 15 people each ... nobody is getting paid. The cost to rent the venue is getting paid and thats it.<br /><br />Once the venue cost is paid , once I make money bands make money.<br /><br />We all make money.<br /><br />If you draw 50 people at 5bucks a head your getting paid.<br />If you draw 100 people at 5 bucks a head ... your getting 90% of your draws cover.<br /><br />A booking agent , should be employed by the venue and paid by the venue.<br /><br />A promoter, should be what the title is ...and promote.<br /><br />While the basic idea of the guy sending out a expectations list is in the right direction, it hasnt been properly proof read at all, or thought out in terms of what works and what doesnt.<br /><br />This will come from experience and time.<br /><br />About the sound check .. your not Metallica ... your not getting this 30 minute sound check, no crowd wants to hear that...<br />If it sounds crappy with a 5 minute line test ....you have a bad sound guy.<br /><br />15 minutes is enough time to have drummer hit drums, guitarist, bassist do check, and check vocal mics then cut em loose and adjust in the first song ..<br /><br />volume and peak meters ...use em sound guy.<br /><br /><br />go ahead and remove my post if you'd like ...<br /><br /><br />the most of your post is valid ...<br /><br />however do consider it is on an individual basis.<br /><br />damn shame somefly by night promoters have to give all of us a bad name.<br /><br />Note to bands, ask questions, before you let anyone work with you, verify history and reputation of the promoter.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795757662260835797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-33715727513056562412013-05-10T10:22:52.525-07:002013-05-10T10:22:52.525-07:00llDuke Limousinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03928067018488565854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-60840689946066961092013-05-10T08:03:09.526-07:002013-05-10T08:03:09.526-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07337227742402142021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-32856993212612312382013-05-10T07:40:23.927-07:002013-05-10T07:40:23.927-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082966861788736427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-16001946066405774102013-05-09T18:12:13.411-07:002013-05-09T18:12:13.411-07:00post the link, please?post the link, please?Katharinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01149443504945085596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-13860788434496826322013-05-09T18:11:12.824-07:002013-05-09T18:11:12.824-07:00" rather than coming out to see their friend&..." rather than coming out to see their friend's band, and leaving before the next band even sets up."<br />-- THE WORST!!<br /><br />I think, perhaps, what would solve this is if bands told fans to show up AT DOORS, not a set time. Also, if bands ENCOURAGED fans to stay for all the bands. Saying "Band XYZ is really great. You'd like them." isn't that hard. It only benefits us all.Katharinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01149443504945085596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901572286328917781.post-33541851820045202342013-05-09T18:06:48.009-07:002013-05-09T18:06:48.009-07:00Check out this fb page. Join up, all.
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